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Paul in Hobart
14-10-2008, 09:26 PM
Listen up , slackers! This country needs YOU to work up a sweat in the name of national pride!

December 7th the Cross World Long Cycle Challenge is on!

Mostly Europeans (those pesky Finns in particular , Finnish United Kettlebell Association guys (the FUKAs...)) have challenged our great nation to a weightball contest.

Now this is pretty user friendly. It is not a GS comp , but essentially you commit to lifting as many Kg overhead as you can in 10 minutes using the long cycle clean & jerk( or press (but that is hard for 10 mins)). Clean the bell(s) jerk (or press) then back to hang and repeat cycle.

One or two arms , swap arms or rest with bell on floor if you wish ( :oops: ) , and use a bell of challenging weight. That means women - MINIMUM 12kg , blokes 16kg , MORE LIKE 24-32kg IF YOU GO THE ONE ARM SWAP +/- PUT DOWN WAY.

The total Kg lifted will be divided by the number of athletes.

You have the chance to represent your country and boast to your friends. All that is required is a committment to a few weeks of regular training.

Use any method to keep the conditioning up , but 3 weeks before the comp work heavily with KBs.

Post results here. If you can get a bunch of people together all the better. If you are outback, get a mate to count reps/time and if you cheat , you are only cheating yourself!

This is on the same weekend as the Irongarm KB challenge which is 20 minutes - 10mins snatches followed immediately by 10mins Long cycle. Personally I will do the 20 minute event and count the second stage for Team Australia. But I have several irons in the fire.

Are you with us , or just on the couch?

Antti our friend from Finland says he just wants a good hard honest effort. I think we can offer him that - and a bit more.

10 minutes effort that might even change your life :D You will be uberfit & also look dead sexy in a cossie for summer.

Personal trainers - marshall your troops NOW! Give them a serious goal.

cheers , now snap to it & remember, no "training to failure" mentality.
Paul

PS now is the time to get that prograde comp style kettlebell. Your performance will be increased , guaranteed.

mick valentine
15-10-2008, 04:36 PM
Paul,

Geez mate i don't know,sounds like a lot of hard work,maybe i'll do it?Then again maybe not,possibly you may get me, i'm stuck :? What to do :?: :?: :?:

Alright i'm in and will be using the 32kg,though mine is generation 1 so Rick if you want to sponsor me a Pro-Grade 32 you have my address :D . At this stage i'll probably do the IGX event in the am and the Cross World in the pm,just think i'll score better for the "TEAM' that way.

Any one else?? Does BW factor into the results?

Mick

Ps; i'll be waiting for Mr. DHL Rick to come to the door 8)

Tom M-W
15-10-2008, 07:16 PM
I'm in - Tom M-W

Antti
16-10-2008, 02:07 AM
Does this mean there are only 3 brave KB lifter in your great nation? This is a Challenge, fight for your country and most of all, fight for yourself. Of course, if you don't dare, I can understand.... :twisted:

winnie
16-10-2008, 08:05 AM
I'm in.

jd
17-10-2008, 11:25 PM
can weight be changed during the 10 minutes?

kbellguy
18-10-2008, 05:05 PM
Hi All

Here in sunny Albury we have 6 definates and maybe 8 competing. I am thinking about having a crack at the 1ALCCJ with 32kg alas it will not be with the prograde! a case of suck it up buttercup. We all look forward to it. Yes guys you need to lift heavier than 16, the girls down here can throw that weight around like a ping-pong ball!


Cheers

Mat

Paul in Hobart
18-10-2008, 08:31 PM
Jamie the rules don't say you can't change KBs during the set. It might be hard to keep track of things without a ref. But the aim is to lift as much as possible.

Nathan in Sydney has some kids who may compete. They lift 4kg ; nothing wrong with that (IF YOU ARE A KID :D )

The more the merrier ; so what if our average is pulled down a bit. The men will just have to work a bit harder!

A word of advice - in training make sure lockouts are solid - lock knees as well. Otherwise form gets sloppy and in an official comp you will be pinged!

Emily
20-10-2008, 10:22 AM
I'm in, STILL have tonsilitis (I don't know why they don't just take the bloody things out) and don't know when I will start training again but I'll give it my best shot.

Paul in Hobart
20-10-2008, 10:46 AM
We will all give it our best shot. It is impossible for everyone to give of their best all the time or indeed always peak successfully. But the real goal is to make progress with understanding of training methods and how you can manage your own potential.

As far as your tonsils go, we used to say "you only heal with cold steel" :twisted:

albi
23-10-2008, 11:30 AM
I just got back to OZ from a month off travelling and another month boozing in Chile, but I'm in...

markmclean
26-10-2008, 02:33 PM
Hey Paul whats a good plan to get up to speed say training three times a week to compete with the two sixteens for long cycle for the comp me and my 17 year old so 8) :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: n will giv it a crack

Paul in Hobart
29-10-2008, 12:40 PM
Hey Paul whats a good plan to get up to speed say training three times a week to compete with the two sixteens for long cycle for the comp me and my 17 year old so 8) :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: n will giv it a crack


Mark email me tasgirevik@gmail.com and I will try to advise.

Tom M-W
06-12-2008, 01:23 PM
Oh! I've just realised I've done the comp on the wrong day. Just pretend this is Sunday-D'oh!!!!!

Long Cycle Clean & Jerk 16kg x 2 (32kg): 102 reps / 3264kg - 10 minutes. (ridiculous pb - very happy)

breakdown: 9, 10,11,10,10, 7 rest,12,9,10,14= 102.

Body weight: 91.5kg

I have to thank Paul and my wife for this result, I never thought that I could get 100+. I had been doing long C&J sets and tabata sets. Paul suggested I isolate the movements and do double cleans, and OA jerks, all with an emphasis on resting in rack - long sets of course! And my wife because she counted for me, and gave me great feedback. A week ago we did a test run and I lifted 93. I had shown her Youtube vids of the top lifters, from that she observed that I was looser in my movements and I didn't lean back in the rack as much. From her observations I worked on my technique, and wrote up a minute by minute rep schedule (to lift 94reps.) Which I managed to do + about 1 extra rep per minute. I just focussed on getting the reps each minute. It worked well.

I guess it's time to move on to the 24kg's.

GO AUSSIES!!!

Tom.

kbellguy
06-12-2008, 08:03 PM
Great numbers!!!
If you are able to have a go at the double 20's first before the 24's, they really help break up the massive jump from 16 to 24. Good luck all for the comp tomorrow

kbellguy
07-12-2008, 10:10 AM
Team Albury results

Mat Shields, BWT 97kg 1ALCCJ with 24kg, 117 reps = 2808kg
Paul Goonan, BTW 95kg 1ALCCJ with 24kg, 115 reps = 2760kg
Barbie Badcock 1ALCCJ with 20kg, 85 reps= 1700kg
Angela McCoy 1ALCCJ with 20kg, 64 reps =1280kg

Mat, Barbie, Paul and Angela
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq51/culgo/gscomp014web.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq51/culgo/gscomp011web.jpg
http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq51/culgo/gscomp005web.jpg

Very enjoyable morning session, everyone did a personal best which is great and kept a good cadence with good form. Looking forward to seeing everyone elses results.

Cheers
Mat

Paul in Hobart
07-12-2008, 12:00 PM
Really good work Team Albury , & Tom!
I am waiting a few more hours - I did the irongarm 20min challenge yesterday with a 32...
Feel good but going to wait the full 24hrs and have a go @ 2x24

jd
07-12-2008, 12:25 PM
Team Brunswick

Austin Ietto using 1 x 20 & 2 x 16 = 3196 @ bwt 78kg
Russell Wagstaff 1 x 20 = 3100 @ bwt 96kg
Damon Fernandez 2 x 16 = 2812 @ bwt 100kg
Jamie Douse 1 x 20 = 3140 @ bwt 70kg

Excellent effort by all

markmclean
07-12-2008, 12:46 PM
:D :evil: :mrgreen: Hey we just did our bit for Australia down in Launceston Tas scores as follows
Max Rip Mclean 17 yrs body weight 68 kg two 16s longcycle 56 reps
Mark Mclean 44 yrs 83 kg long cycle 24kg 74 reps ps we enjoyed the short breaks ha ha both got personal best kb rule

winnie
07-12-2008, 01:18 PM
Team Mulgrave

Andrew Winbanks bw 95kg, 32kg x 108 =3456
very pleased to get through without injury :D

albi
07-12-2008, 06:49 PM
Team fkin Marrickville;

10 minutes LCCJ 32KB - left arm only (due to the tendonitis in the R elbow) 10,10,10,10,10,8,8,8,9,11 = 94 reps = 3008kg total
...was aiming for 100 but didn't quite get there. Felt great, the single weight is like a peanut after all the work with doubles - biggest limiting factor was my bicep and forearm fatigue...rested 1 minute and did 100 swings and cleans with the right hand (doesn't aggravate the elbow only the OH stuff does) sets of 20 alternating for another 5 minutes.

I love youse all - yes winnie I do feel better despite a slight sense of Scheissenbedauern

SDP
07-12-2008, 07:46 PM
G'Day Everyone,

From Queensland,

Jennie Drever OALCCJ, 12kg, 112reps = 1344kg.
Stuart Drever (71kg bwt) LCCJ, 2 x 16kg, 79reps = 2528kg.

Well done everyone, is great to see the results!

Stuart.

Paul in Hobart
07-12-2008, 07:48 PM
Team Tassy part 2 , kicked off the rank late

Arms were tired after yesterday's comp with 32 so changed plans and wimped out...but got a better result I think

2x16kg 14rpmx8mins then 2x24kg 10,12

= total 4640kg , as I recall it was about total kg lifted...

Day off tomorrow :(

Great to see all the names ; hope you join up GSAA next year , we will run similar events.

stoyan
07-12-2008, 11:26 PM
Team Adelaide (no one else has claimed this name, so we'll take it):

Chis Frech: 1ALCCJ 10 min. 16kg 104 reps @ 80kg bodyweight; total = 1664kg
Stoyan Shopov: 1ALCCJ 10 min. 32kg 106 reps @ 74kg bodyweight; total = 3392kg

Chris did the challenge 1h after touching a KB for a first time ever. Pretty gutsy (hope you won't be cursing me at work tomorrow).

When do we find out how the Finns went?

Paul in Hobart
08-12-2008, 11:50 AM
I will add our results to the overall spreadsheet today (I'm a bit busy right now).

Albi - I need your real name - pm me if you dont want it on the forum, and you want to be counted.

Also anyone who hasnt added their b.w. feel free to do so. Ladies are excepted given the relaxedness of this challenge :D

Rick , we missed you mate! Hope the bbq or whatever you did instead was even more fun - hard to imagine how , though :mrgreen:

Paul in Hobart
08-12-2008, 09:20 PM
Tom what's your surname? Being old I've misplaced it!
I've put the results on the international spreadsheet ; just waiting for Nathan's Sydney mob to ring through.
Team Oz did very well!

Emily
08-12-2008, 10:22 PM
Hey guys,

I've only been training consistently for a few weeks after about six weeks off due to illness but I managed to get through it.

Emily Friedel
Weight: 62kg
KB: 12kg
Reps: 163
Total: 1956kg

Paul in Hobart
08-12-2008, 10:31 PM
Well done Emily, you have the fighting spirit!
Added you to the results.
Thanks for making the effort.

imported_Rick
08-12-2008, 11:17 PM
Great work everyone! Small but growing list.
We can host future events at our new studio in Richmond if your keen.

Paul in Hobart
09-12-2008, 08:51 AM
Nathan Lowe's crew in Sydney achieved the following: Note the team of young Bogatyrs , amazing stuff and very inspiring for all of us with kids.


MEN
Chris Blycha 80kg - lifted a 24kg for 79 reps
Ben Rolton 77kg - lifted a 16kg for 110 reps
Joseph Robb 97kg - lifted a 16kg for 120 reps
Chris Ladics 70kg - lifted a 16kg for 126 reps
Nathan Lowe 75kg - lifted a 28kg for 101 reps

WOMEN
Tamsin Rolton - lifted a 12kg for 110 reps
Trish Yaldwyn - lifted a 12kg for 124 reps

KIDS
Jessica Yaldwyn 8 yrs - lifted a 4kg for 165 reps LC - 180 reps Jerk & 100 reps Snatch (She is very keen)
Rebecca Yaldwyn 11 yrs - lifted a 4kg for 138 reps LC - 168 reps Jerk
Jay Yaldwyn 6 yrs - lifted a 4kg for 165 reps (Jerk only not LC)

Nathan adds "Baby Ilia was not quite ready to compete but watched with keen interest "

The baby is very new ; also Nathan had worked a long shift and only had 3 hours sleep before competing. Kudos!


And Rick - we may have to talk further about an organised venue; thanks for the offer. Sydney & Melbourne will probably be the centres of primary growth and it makes sense to concentrate our efforts there for the forseeable.

Tom M-W
09-12-2008, 12:26 PM
Paul my full name is Tom Murray-White.

jefwil
09-12-2008, 07:00 PM
Team Melbourne City Baths

Men
Was going to do 2 x 16kg, but after last weeks 24hr race shoulders still sore so did 2 x 12kg
Jeff Williams 63kg, 2 x 12kg, 142reps, 3408kg
Rest then went 16kg, 174reps, 2784kg
Joseph Tadich 85kg, 16kg, 172reps, 2752kg
Mike Grier 83kg, 16kg, 134reps, 2144kg
Mark Roddy 78kg, 2 x 12kg, 99reps, 2376kg
Paul Benson 82kg, 2 x 16kg, 78reps, 2496kg
John Ingram 92kg, 20kg, 100reps, 2000kg
Richard Weibel 83kg, 12kg, 122reps, 1464kg


Women
Barbara Gilbert 76kg, 16kg, 103reps, 1648kg
Natasha Lynch 66kg, 16kg, 94reps, 1504kg
Dea Sani 53kg, 16kg, 78reps, 1248kg
Cate Dellow 68kg, 12kg, 123reps, 1476kg

jd
10-12-2008, 10:28 AM
Hi Jeff

Did you do the 2 x 12 and the 16 in the 10 minutes :shock:

Jamie

Paul in Hobart
10-12-2008, 11:16 AM
I think we can only count the best effort. Jeff is a fit young man for sure!

btw at last count we had 40 competitors who lifted a total of 87. 236 tonnes :D - 27 men lifted an average of 2607kg , 10 ladies averaged 1496kg and 3 juniors averaged 624kg.

As soon as I get the link to the final spreadsheet I will post it here.

Well done everyone - you have done Australia proud. My heart is truly gladdened!

Paul in Hobart
11-12-2008, 09:52 AM
Results http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pPs1SJ-FjryGQOPKf_RibPw

mickh
11-12-2008, 10:39 AM
Sorry about the late reply guys:

Michael Heath, 79kg - 1A LCCJ 32kg - 67L, 74R.

kbellguy
11-12-2008, 12:56 PM
Fantastic results from Australia! congrats all.

Cheers

Mat

Paul in Hobart
13-12-2008, 11:41 AM
Sorry about the late reply guys:

Michael Heath, 79kg - 1A LCCJ 32kg - 67L, 74R.

Very fit Mick!
You realise that's as many as world champ Denisov can do?

mickh
16-12-2008, 02:22 PM
Paul,
that should be read as 67L for 10 mins, 74R for 10 mins. 5 min rest between hands.

I won't be setting an world records just yet :wink:

Paul in Hobart
16-12-2008, 02:50 PM
The thing is Mick that 14rpm is doable but very tough. My point was (& it's a little subtle I admit) that in GS circles , 14rpm is considered the max possible allowing for 1 legal rep (stable lockout) in LCCJ.

I will post a vid of my rapidfire 14rpm 2x16 set... basically I chose a weight where I wouldn't have to rest. 2x20 would've slowed my rate but my 20s are an older design and not very nice on the forearms for 10 minutes. The 2x24 at the end enabled a boost in workrate beyond what I could achieve with 2x16. But it was very much a home straight effort!

Valery's 3 mins using 2x24 13-14rpm is pretty damn impressive - 640 kg/min. And the WR for LCCJ 2x32kg equates to 704kg/min for 10 minutes!